Repeating your Title in the body of the description

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Permalink Reply by Pearl's Parlor on January 8, 2012 at 9:39am

Lots of great information.  As far as renaming your photos (something I've never even thought to do), do you think it's important to rename all of them in the listing or just the gallery shot?  Do you know what photo Google uses under Images, or do they use all the ones you have in the particular listing?  Thanks.

Permalink Reply by CheriShops - Admin on January 8, 2012 at 9:55am

I name all my photos as I sometimes see assorted pics on Google images, including ones from here on TVV as well as photos from my blog, fb etc...so I think that when a search is done and one switches to "Images"..Google shows whatever it has indexed with those keywords

Permalink Reply by Pearl's Parlor on January 8, 2012 at 10:11am

I've checked Images once in awhile and some of my photos are there, even though I haven't named them.  Maybe they would appear higher if they were named?  Google must still pick them up from the item listing?

Permalink Reply by Pearl's Parlor on January 8, 2012 at 11:42am

One more question about photos.  I know Carol said she would be posting, so maybe her post will answer this anyway.  I read the things that Google doesn't like you to do with photos, such as any writing on them.  I use Picasa also for editing.  They have a feature where you can add a border around your photo.  Would that cause a problem with Google?  Thanks.

Permalink Reply by Fortune Gallery of Vintage on January 8, 2012 at 12:35pm

When you talk about "writing" on photos, I think you are referring to the ability of photo editing software that allows the addition of text thru a text tool - is that right? 

I use Microsoft Front Page software to upload my images to a website for publishing.  Before I upload the pictures, I have the option to add a description or keywords to my picture and that becomes part of the code of that picture.  Early on, a web designer told me to always put a name to the picture by way of this code.  When you say that Google does not like writing on the pictures, are you also referring to the description that is part of the code?  There are so many changes every year, it is hard to keep up.

Also, when RL or RP copies our pictures to their website, do they change the code so that this description is lost in the copying?

Permalink Reply by Ruby Lane on January 8, 2012 at 4:12pm

1)  Text in your photos:  This is a no-no.  For example if I have a photo with my name in the photo, that is a a no-no.

2) Borders around pics. I don't think this is a bid deal. My motto is keep it as simple as possible. Why add extra work to creating a picture, especially for a $10 item.

3) RL now contains your item url for a photo to include the first 5 words of your pictures. Each picture in the grouping has the same url.  Now, for photos that were added before the change, those are the ones you may want to doctor up.

Take a look at the new additions to your shop along with the photos. You will see how the url for the item is created and the ones for the older items were created. You should be able to notice the difference.

PS You can use the RL photo software to spiff up your images.

Permalink Reply by CheriShops - Admin on January 8, 2012 at 4:54pm

I really think a number of people are getting confused here re the text and photos.

It is text ON photos that is not a good idea as Carol said, adding your store name or the item name etc as part of the actual image

but text in the file name of the photo is what we are referring to as being a good idea  ie  give your photos keyword names instead of numbers or just code.

so this photo would be an example of a No No

Permalink Reply by Ruby Lane on January 8, 2012 at 5:28pm

Correct. Item name inside picture is not ok. Item in picture URL is fine,

But. of you use a url with the name of your picture in the URL (when you save your picture to you picture folder on your computer) when you upload the picture to to your Ruby Lane shop the name  of the picture will change to reflect the first 5 words of your item title. Go see for yourself. This ONLY applies to newly added photos to your items.

Permalink Reply by Ruby Lane on January 8, 2012 at 5:31pm

Yes, it may be apples and oranges but if you are going to learn one thing you might as well learn the other one.

Ruby Lane - Carol Augustine said:

Correct. Item name inside picture is not ok. Item in picture URL is fine,

But. of you use a url with the name of your picture in the URL (when you save your picture to you picture folder on your computer) when you upload the picture to to your Ruby Lane shop the name  of the picture will change to reflect the first 5 words of your item title. Go see for yourself. This ONLY applies to newly added photos to your items.

Permalink Reply by Pearl's Parlor on January 8, 2012 at 8:02pm

Carol - forgive me if my question is stupid.  If we don't add a name to our photos, Ruby Lane shows a name that consists of the first 5 words of our item title?  So if we're careful with our item title, we wouldn't necessarily have to name our photo (if all we're concerned with is Ruby Lane) because RL is doing it for us?  Or did I not understand?  When did the change occur that you mention?

Permalink Reply by Mainely Glass on January 10, 2012 at 7:43pm

I don't name my photos with the item name.  Maybe I should.  But If I'm reading Carol right, currently Ruby Lane tags or names our photos with the first 5 words of the title.  On my own website, my image handler give an Alt tag to my photos with the name of the item.  So I think I'm covered.  I name my images with my inventory number.  Here is why.

One day I list a Cranberry Fenton Vase for sale.  If I name the photos cranberry_fenton_vase.jpg, cranberry_fenton_vase_2.jpg, etc then what happens when I list a 2nd, 3rd or 4th Cranberry Fenton Vase in my shop.  There are only so many ways to rearrange those keywords, and it's hard enough to keep my photos organized as it is.  I know, I could get more organized, but I don't see that happening.

Oh and there is a difference between cranberry_fenton_vase.jpg and cranberry-fenton-vase.jpg.  The first one indicates that the words are to be taken all together, the second one indicates that the words are to be taken as individual keywords. 

Permalink Reply by The Old Grey Mare on January 10, 2012 at 8:40pm

I have another question that I haven't seen here.  I specialize in certain things, like horse and dog items, and antique and  vintage tins.  I used to add to my listings, at the end of a description,  "do see my other xxxx items."  For example, if I listed a tin, I would say "Please have a look at the other tins in my shop."   I was told that was unacceptable to the Search Engines, so I deleted all that information.  But I'm curious, what do you all think, is this a problem?  This thread has provided so much information, I'm staggered by your knowledge and I'm still trying to take it all in.  Thanks so very much for sharing!   The Old Grey Mare

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