We had been having discussions about SEO and effective marketing for our Ruby Lane shops.
Fine tuning our shops, reciprocal links, all the new attributes, etc.
One thing we did NOT cover thoroughly was the issue of watermarked images. In the Google merchant area is information that leads me to believe that watermarked images and items with watermarked images do NOT show up in the Google shopping results.
What about Google organic search?
Does anyone have any further information on this question?
I've done a preliminary search for a few items that I know are watermarked in a shop on Ruby Lane, and those items are NOT showing up in my Google shopping results ... and they are not on the first page of my straight Google search.
Any info?
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Permalink Reply by CheriShops - Admin on February 5, 2012 at 8:48pm I think Carol confirmed on another thread recently that we should not have any "text" of any kind, which I assume includes watermarks" on our images as those are rejected by Google
Permalink Reply by Charmed Life on February 5, 2012 at 8:54pm Cheri: I've just proven that information incorrect.
The items I was initially searching were new listings.
Going to older listings, I was able to quickly find (in both organic searching AND google shopping) an item with a watermarked photograph.
hmmmmmm so those images weren't rejected, because there they were. (They are not my items and belong to another RL shop.)

Permalink Reply by CheriShops - Admin on February 5, 2012 at 8:58pm ah interesting....I am trying to remember which thread that discussion on the photos was on?
So maybe Google doesn't consider watermarks as text ?
Permalink Reply by Charmed Life on February 5, 2012 at 9:01pm I don't know.
Their merchant pages say this:
"Your images may not contain promotional messages of any kind, including watermarks or promotional text. You are not allowed to submit image links to logo images or other generic images."
from here: http://support.google.com/merchants/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=...

Permalink Reply by CheriShops - Admin on February 5, 2012 at 9:23pm found this thread so far, where Carol commented, tho I know there was another one
seems maybe Google is not *yet* enforcing it...but likely will be....so maybe that is why you aren't seeing any new listings with watermarks, only older ones....maybe they have started enforcing it?
http://thevintagevillage.com/group/rubyplaza/forum/topics/text-on-p...

Permalink Reply by Holly Lane Antiques on February 5, 2012 at 10:56pm All of my pictures have and continue to have Holly Lane Antiques on them. There is no way I can change or redo them for the almost 800 items I have listed. They show up when I do a Google shopping search - both the older listings and the newer ones right alongside the same listing in my other internet store. I can remember reading somewhere long ago that Google wouldn't do that either - list the same item in two places.
I am not sure I know what a Google organic search is - I just did a regular Google search.
I started labeling my pictures when I started finding them showing up in other peoples listings when I did searches.
Marie

Permalink Reply by CheriShops - Admin on February 6, 2012 at 7:33am Marie
Google organic search is aka "regular"....Google search bots index our items for that
Product search is reached via Google Shopping...this is the one that RL "feeds" to Google

Permalink Reply by RC Antiques on February 6, 2012 at 10:19am 
Permalink Reply by CheriShops - Admin on February 6, 2012 at 10:57am I think the most "deciding" factor for me in not marking my photos is what Carol said about RL not using any marked photos for their promos......

Permalink Reply by RC Antiques on February 6, 2012 at 11:09am Yep, that will do it.
And, no perks because of a name is not worth it..so, all of my new listings have no name at all.
I should have paid attention to Diane a couple of years ago, but, like a dummy, did not pay attention.
Now, photos of the items that have been in my shop for a while are not promoted because of the small print....thankfully as of last month, the photos of my latest listings have no print anywhere, zitto zap, not hidden, not small, nothing
Live and learn...and, by golly, do it with a smile :-)

Permalink Reply by The Old Grey Mare on February 6, 2012 at 11:09am I thought I remembered that as well Cheri, but if you look at the Monthly Finds that they sent out on February 4, you'll see three that have something written, by the shop owner, on the picture that RL used in the email. So I'm confused about that. Happy Monday everyone, hope it's a terrific week for all!
CheriShops - Admin said:
I think the most "deciding" factor for me in not marking my photos is what Carol said about RL not using any marked photos for their promos......

Permalink Reply by RC Antiques on February 6, 2012 at 11:14am OMG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope it's not mine
If it is, then it's teeny tiny print , and a photo I have not retaken yet.
Me bad, just can't redo all those photos, tried, but, hey...what can I say...I got to the point of almost closing the shop to erase everything and then, reopen, to start all over again, because of the gender / size / and color thing..and now the photos...but, decided no, I am over reacting...my shop will be fine.
And it is...but, slowly but surely, it is being updated with new photos.
I refuse to think my slowness is due to getting older, no way..somehow, I must be getting lazy, teeheeeee
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